On January 16th 2019, Jeff was a guest on the nationally podcasted show Beyond Reality Radio hosted by Jason Hawes (TAPS, Ghost Adventures) and JV Johnson. Jeff spoke about his Electric Light Dowsing Rods and his newly release of the MC Mic & MC EMF. (multi-colored microphone and EMF microphone/speaker.) Also on the show, Jeff gave away a set of each of his inventions to two lucky listeners who called into the show which aired between 12am to 2am, Jan 16th. Click on the link below and scroll down the past shows to 011619.